Pima County Housing Commission
Committee
Meeting
Pima
County Administration Building
130 W.
Congress – 1st Floor Conference Room
Members Present:
Ed Taczanowsky
Frank Moreno
Frank Thomson
Jon Miles
Kathleen Longnecker
Ken Anderson
Scott Place
Steve Craddock
Staff & Guests:
Amanda Plourde
Betty Villegas
Gary Bachman
Hank Atha
Margaret Kish
Maria Robinson
Megan Miller
Michael Bends
Mike McDonald
Richard Elias
Terry Galligan
Tim Pickrell
Tom Burke
I.
Welcome & Introductions – Hank Atha reported that this
particular commission was established November 16th of last year. The County
BOS approved several things related to housing, including the creation of this
committee and the establishment of additional funding for the housing trust
fund. Please note, all of these meetings must comply with open meeting laws.
Today’s meeting will primarily cover the financial and legal aspects of bonds
and open meeting laws. The County’s bond program goes back to 1997 when the
county passed a $5M bond issue, and then last year another $10M was approved
for affordable housing activities. The primary goal of this commission is to
keep housing affordable for families in this community through home
ownership, as well as rental projects. Activities of the commission include:
a.
Assisting staff develop affordable housing strategies for
the future
b.
Reviewing and recommending (or not) project proposals
c.
Ensuring the accountability of the 2004 bond funds
d.
Ensuring accountability of the general housing fund
Betty Villegas provided an
orientation to the Housing Commission Member File (binder). She began with Tab
C, which highlights the BOS recommendations. These include:
·
Increase homeownership among populations whose income are at
or below 80% of the median income by 10%
·
Work with non-profits to develop affordable housing
strategies; and develop community-based partnerships so as to get the “best
bang for the buck”
·
Forego the concept of inclusionary zoning and amending
the zoning code to require specific affordable housing units be set aside for
each rezoning and/or residential development approved in the County.
·
Initiate an amendment of the County Comprehensive Plan to
include the Affordable Housing Policy and Strategies in the County
Comprehensive Land Use Plan. Note, this has been done and the plan has already
included this (approved by the BOS).
·
Generate resources sufficient to implement the Affordable
Housing Strategies. This plan will be submitted to the BOS, but not by the May
10th deadline as originally assigned. This will be done as soon as
this commission feels comfortable in doing so. The funding mechanism will be
considered a work in progress.
Betty then pointed out the content
of Tab F, which provided a list of the 1997 bond projects. All of the projects
were completed with the exception of two. Once all the projects are completed,
there will be 332 affordable units in Pima County (This was informational only
to show where the $5M went). The 1997 application and instructions have been
included for review as this is what was used to determine the eligibility of
projects. There is additional information in the binder that can be reviewed by
you at a later time, and will be addressed in detail at a future meeting.
Tab D is a draft Executive Summary
of the local consolidated housing and community development plan, which goes to
HUD, and be reviewed at your leisure. This was worked on with the City; this
goes before the BOS and the federal Government. At the next meeting we will
provide commission a summary will be provided on what Pima County does in
housing programs and this will be part of the annual plan. Sometime in the
future, the plan is something this committee may want to review.
Discussion: Regarding the May 10th
deadline, referenced in Tab C. Hank stated that Because of the late start
decision on the affordable housing fee schedule is delayed. Staff expects to
bring information on this to the commission within the next two or three
meetings.
II.
Open Meeting Laws and Conflict of Interest – Megan Miller,
County Attorney provided a brief overview of both topics and stated that
greater detail, and FAQ’s could be obtained from the AZ Attorney General’s
website at: http://www.attorney_general.state.az.us/agency_handbook/agency_handbook.html
or in the AZ Agency Handbook or Pima County Boards, Commissions and Committees
Coordinator’s Handbook. This is covered under A.R.S. 38-431 to 431.09. The
general guidelines are as follows: Any meeting of any public body that contains
a quorum of its members is considered to be a meeting and thus subject to open
meeting laws. This commission has been established by the BOS and subject to
this A.R.S. Official acts conducted, recommendations made or actions taken must
be noticed out properly so that the public can know what’s going on, this is
done to maximize public access to the governmental process. As a general rule,
if in question, resolve it in favor of openness. Notice of the meeting and any
action item must be posted in a public location and with the Clerk of the BOS
(Fax: 622-0448). You must establish a schedule, post a notice of the meeting
and the agenda (or notice as to where the agenda can be found). The public has
the right to attend and listen, but not participate or disrupt. You may not
discuss anything that was not put on the agenda. Things like “old business”,
“new business”, and “other” are not acceptable. Additionally, email discussions
are not allowed either. Minutes must be taken at Board, Commission and
Committee meetings and filed with the clerk’s office. One exception to the open
meeting law is what’s termed an Executive Session. This can be used for
discussion and advice under certain circumstances (personnel issues, legal
issues, property purchase, confidential records being reviewed). However, final
action on the issues discussed must be taken in open session. Compliance is
important because any action, recommendation, decision will not be considered
valid if the law is violated. There can be some repercussions personally – $500
fine. Ms. Miller provided the Yavapai College example for reference, as well as
an example of a wedding that was posted specifically because the guest list
contained a quorum of one of the Boards.
Regarding Conflict of Interest, no
public official can provide or receive goods or services or compensation for
goods or services by any public body. If you or one of your family members has
a substantial interest, you will need to refrain from the discussion that could
either directly or indirectly influence the discussion. Again, if questionable,
resolve in favor of openness. Any COI must be noted for the record.
Ms. Miller welcomes the commission
and encouraged the commission to go forward. If you have any additional
questions, she can be reached at 740-5761.
III.
The Clerk of the Board agenda item will take place at a
future meeting.
IV.
Bond Counsel – Tim Pickrell provided a handout for members
to share regarding the specifics on housing bond issues. This commission will
be responsible for reviewing applications for the 2004 bond. The $10M can be
used for housing projects as this commission sees fit and the BOS approves. The
expenditure of monies on the bond implementation ordinance must fall within the
legal authority to do so. Some
background information included that in 1997, “…of the county…” meant funds
could only be applied to County-owned type housing units. Now, the county can
acquire and dispose of property. Tim went on to state that the state
constitution couldn’t be violated, meaning the county cannot gift or loan its
credit to an individual, association, obtain a joint owner, etc. When the
county resources are put out to a 3rd party, the County must receive
something of value back and $1/year back is not acceptable. The value back can
be public benefit, cash or program value. Regarding federal tax exemptions and
bonds: bonds are issued at low interest rates and cannot be sold at a higher
interest rate to generate profit. The bonds can only be used for the public and
cannot be used in a trader business. Additionally, there are arbitrage
restrictions. To avoid arbitrage issues, the best course of action is to spend
the money shortly after the bonds are sold thus avoiding large “rebate” payments
to the government. You may not put bond proceeds into a housing trust fund
because you do not want the proceeds to resurface in another form. You always
need to protect county’s tax-exempt interest. If you violate the laws, taxes,
penalties, fines and/or the removal of the bond can be retroactively enforced.
V.
Tom Burke, County Finance Director reiterated the importance
of compliance with respect to this bond as it is watched very closely. Bonds
are sold every 12-18 months in small increments over the next 10-12 years to
avoid additional interest earning. The next sale takes place in May for
approximately $65M. Because spending must occur within a specified timeframe,
some projects will begin prior to issuing the bond, however, reimbursement
resolution allows for the spending other funds and then a reimbursement will
take place once the bond has been sold. Money is largely spent through
reimbursement. If working on a project with another jurisdiction and they are
the builder, we will pay for the building piece by piece as the building takes
place; the money will not be paid in advance. No one receives money until the
billing has happened so that this can be tracked with the IRS. There is some
flexibility based on every day type circumstances. This particular bond of $10M
will need to be expended in incremental amounts over the next 12-15 years.
VI.
Comments from Supervisor Elias - Thank you for serving on
this commission. On behalf of the BOS and on a subject very near and dear to
me, I appreciate the brainpower you will provide. Thank you especially to Jon
Miles and Frank Moreno, Commissioner representing Supervisor Elias' District 5. A lot
was learned from past experience regarding the issue of spending as it applies
to affordable housing. Items Mr. Elias considered vitally important include:
·
While you may not have oversight of all funding sources, try
to focus on the collective pot of money on a more broad scale.
·
How can things be matched so that there are some meaningful
results in the community? Furthermore, what’s considered meaningful? This needs
to be answered so that you know what to use the money on.
·
Home ownership is important, don’t just look at multifamily
units and rentals. People need a variety of options. Recognize that this is a
touchy subject, especially with the management of rentals. Also remember, this
can become political and tax credits generate management issues.
·
Remember to involve community partners and to expand the
group. Look at including developers and real estate folks. Please be advocates
for housing that’s affordable to all people. While subsidized projects have
been the traditional way to address this issue, this always leaves out a whole
portion of the population.
·
The stock and bond market needs to go into the equation,
because this affects how successful those projects will be.
·
Bottom line: be broad-minded in looking at today’s
resources; expanding partnerships, and in promoting home ownership and
opportunities.
VII.
Chair and Vice Chair Elections:
MOTION: Frank
Thomson nominated Frank Moreno for Chair; Seconded: Jon Miles.
Discussion: Does the chair give up his/her right to vote? Per Robert’s Rules of
Order, this is typically the case, but the commission may adopt rules of order
that vary from Roberts Rules.
The commission unanimously agreed
that the Chair shall be permitted to vote on all actions before the commission.
Motion unanimously carried forward with all in favor.
Original motion nominating Frank
Moreno as Chair carried unanimously.
Mr. Moreno assumed the chair for
remainder of the meeting.
MOTION: Jon Miles
nominated David Greenberg to serve as Vice Chair; Seconded: Ken
Anderson.
Discussion: What are the duties of
the Vice-Chair? By and large to fill in if the Chair were absent. Additionally,
discussion ensued on rules of order and policies. Staff was directed bring
proposed rules of order or bylaws to the next meeting. Motion unanimously
carried forward with all in favor.
VIII.
Distribution of the City of Tucson Depot Plaza Application
(Tab G) – The application for funds from the 1997 bond has been included for
the commission’s review. To clarify, this project (MLK COT Apartment Project)
would now require 2004 bond funds. There was lengthy discussion on this, for a
variety of reasons, and it was ultimately decided that at the next meeting
criteria, timeframe, etc. would be discussed to determine funding
recommendations for the 2004 bond funds. Additionally, because time is a
factor, the group would like to have the City do a presentation on the proposed
project at June’s meeting. Staff will coordinate this. While several questions
have been addressed via correspondence (included), this new group had several
additional questions. The Commission’s purpose is to increase the number of
affordable housing units, but this proposal does not do that. This project is
not geared towards home ownership…this project actually reduces the number of
affordable housing units available by 28, but could increase the aesthetic
value of the property by adding a courtyard, gym, store, community kitchen,
vending area, etc. It was also noted that the City would retain ownership of
the facility. This project would require approximately 10% of the 2004 bond
funds if approved.
There is currently one application
from the 1997 bond that needs review (Old Pueblo Foundation for $240K). Staff
will send out a copy of this proposal to each member for review prior to the
next meeting. Staff will develop a
proposed rating sheet for the commission to consider using to rate all project
applications. At the next meeting, the group will decide on an application for
use for the 2004 bond applications.
Additional discussion: Average
infrastructure cost is about $18-20K per unit. The commission has requested
that all proposals come forward with a staff analysis and recommendation. Staff
will make that recommendation based on direction and priority from the
commission on the criteria by which it wants to review proposals and rate them.
Frank Moreno stated that the first agenda item for the next meeting be for the
commission to identify its mission, vision, goals and objectives so that
proposals can be approved or denied based on the agreed upon baseline criteria
and the merits of the criteria for how projects are judged. He further
requested staff to provide some suggestions for criteria. Regarding other
housing funds available, the Executive Summary provides this information
(member file).
IX.
The standing meeting time and day will be 3:00 p.m. on the
third Monday of each month, with the next meeting set for Monday, May 16th.
Meetings will take place at this location. Agendas, reminders and minutes will
be sent to each member via email.
X.
Call to Audience:
a.
Michael McDonald, Habitat for Humanity, welcomed the
opportunity of creativity and collaboration in the area of affordable housing
in all aspects of the community. He will be submitting an application in
partnership with four area builders for 393 homes, 87 will be Habitat homes.
There are currently between 25-35K substandard homes in the community, and
projects like this can get a family of four making less than $27K/year in a
home (this includes educated individuals in fields like retail, education, and
healthcare). He looks forward to helping to identify creative ways to fund
these opportunities.
b.
Terry Galligan, Old Pueblo Foundation, spoke to the pending
application that was submitted approximately two months ago. He stated that it
was clear that there is a need to move fast on creative ways for affordable
housing or the market will go right by. There are some non-profits in town that
are ready to move on this $10M and looking forward to this project.
c.
Mike Bends, housing consultant for the Tucson Indian Center,
spoke to the issue capacity planning. He has teamed up with Habitat for
Humanity and has come up with some small but important goals for Native
Americans. He looks forward to the educational process involved in
understanding what projects are possible for through bond funds. He also
addressed the “stereotype” of how some view the Native American population by
reminding the group that outside of two casinos, the situation is different
than what some might assume. For the most part, the tribal nation is unable to
build houses unless special funding comes along. He is here to represent that
group of Pima County residents. He looks forward to working with the commission
and in understanding the commission’s goals.
XI.
Adjourned. 3:00 p.m.