Pima County Housing Commission

December 05, 2005

 

Pima County Recreation Center

2805 E Ajo Way Room 104

 

 

 

 

 

Members Present:         Members Absent:                        Staff & Guests:

 

Tim Escobedo                  Steve Craddock                            Hank Atha

Ed Taczanowsky              Kathleen Buske                             Margaret Kish             

David Greenberg              Frank Moreno                               Betty Villegas   

Jon Miles                                                                                 Gary Bachman

Henry Boice                                                                            Marcos Ysmael

Ken Anderson                                                                         Daniel Tylutki

Scott Place                                                                             Samantha Romero

Frank Thomson                                                                     Terry Galligan

Patrick Cavanaugh                                        

                                   

                                                                                                                                                           

                                                                                   

 

I.                    Welcome & Call to Order

Meeting called to order by Vice-Chair David Greenberg at 3:10 P.M.

 

II.          Approval of Minutes from November 21, 2005

Motion by Frank Thomson to approve the minutes with following corrections:

o        Middle of page 2 change comment by Frank Thomson to state that he asked whether the program was cost effective.

o        Top of page 3 change delete comment by Frank Thomson stating that he would oppose the Commission requiring the Pima County Inclusive Design Ordinance enforced within other local jurisdictions that do not have the same code requirements

o        Correction to remove David Greenberg from being present as he was not there. Seconded by Ken Anderson.  Motion carried unanimously.

 

III.                Staff Report

Betty Villegas asked Daniel Tylutki to give staff report on analysis of cost per square footage of existing bond project development.  Daniel stated that staff analyzed three housing commission approved projects. He distributed a hand out that provided the information used in the analysis to all the Commissioners.  Daniel stated that what was learned is that the cost per square foot is an average of $103 per unit when you use the livable area divided by the total cost per unit, excluding the land.

Frank Thomson stated that the reason the Commission requested this information was to determine whether these projects were cost effective in comparison to what the private sector is able to build.  Frank Thomson also stated that this would help the Commission compare the proposals that come in for proposed funding.  Daniel then stated that since staff does not have the cost for the private sector builders, we cannot do a comparison at this point. David Greenberg volunteered to provide some generic numbers from an average taken from a few DR Horton communities to get a baseline, which is what he assumed the Commission and Staff would need for a good cost comparison.

Ed Taczanowsky stated that the comparison should be from comparable type units.  He volunteered to work on getting some numbers from SAHBA members that built affordable housing.  David Greenberg stated that almost all private sector builders had 

1,300 to 1,500 square foot home, 3 bedrooms, bath and three quarters, with a two-car garage stucco homes, and that if you use that baseline without getting into type of plumbing fixtures etc. it should be a pretty comparable cost to the public sector.  David Greenberg concluded that he and Ed Taczanowsky and possibly Steve Craddock could get at least three comparisons for the Commission.  Their was further discussion on the importance of having cost data in the scoring component of the criteria. 

 

 

 

IV.                2004 General Obligation Bond Program

4A. Discussion on responses received on bond application scoring sheet.

Betty Villegas stated that she only received feedback on the bond application scoring sheet from three Commissioners and Deputy Director Hank Atha.  Based on the feedback received, staff put together another draft for the Commission to review.  Betty Villegas asked staff Marcos Ysmael to go over the changes made to the scoring sheet based on the feedback received.  After the presentation, there was discussion and questions from the Commissioners.  Ken Anderson wanted clarification on the Inclusive Design v Enable 2000 accessibility.  Marcos explained that the Enable 2000 was dropped totally but that the Inclusive Design which is a requirement for all development in unincorporated Pima County would be required in all of Pima County.  Marcos also noted that there will be points for cost. 

Frank Thomson wanted to discuss the Energy Star and the public participation process listed in the scoring criteria.  Their was discussion on why it was needed and the pros and cons of leaving it in the scoring criteria.  Betty Villegas stated that the neighborhood reinvestment bond program focus was to work with the community through the process. 

Henry Boice made the motion to accept the affordable housing application scoring sheet as amended and presented.

Ken Anderson seconded motion passed unanimously.

            4B. Review Process

Discussion on whether Commission wanted to keep the review process the same, where there were 2 subcommittees, A and B that reviews proposals. 

Ed Taczanowsky made a motion to keep the same process as before.

Jon Miles Seconded

Discussion on whether to decrease the minimum points to move forward to full committee to 50%, or leave at 80%.

Ed Taczanowsky amended his motion To keep the two subcommittees as they are with reports back to the main commission for final approval of any project that scores 80% or higher on our newly approved scoring system.

Jon Miles seconded, motion passed unanimously.

           

4C. Recommendation Process

 Henry Boice recommended that a capsulated version of what the subcommittee thought of the project, what its strengths and weaknesses were be summarized by staff to present to the full Commission.  Their was discussion that the Commission would be able to bring any concerns before the full Commission when necessary.  No motion necessary to continue this process.

 

Discussion on who would attend the Board of Supervisors meeting to speak on behalf of the Commission in reference to the Contribution Fee Schedule on the agenda. 

Ed Taczanowsky made a motion that Tim Escobedo be the spokesman for the Pima County Housing Commission on the issue of our chart as it is proposed to the Board of Supervisors.

Ken Anderson seconded motion passed unanimously.

Hank Atha asked Commissioners if there were any items that they would like to discuss at future meetings.  Betty Villegas stated that there were items that she had from a previous meeting that would be presented.  She also asked if at the next meeting she could invite Corky Poster to give his presentation on affordable housing cost and affordability.  The Commissioners agreed that it would be a good training for them to hear the presentation.  Betty Villegas will extend the invitation to Corky Poster.  

Call to the Audience

Terry Galligan asked about whether bond funds could be used for land acquisition, and what the requirements would be.  Betty Villegas stated that staff will work on getting information on how it can be used for the purpose of land acquisition. 

Motion to adjourn meeting at 4:00 pm by Tim Escobedo

Seconded by Ed Taczanowsky, Passed unanimously.